Jane explores a disagreement between young monks on a windy day – what’s moving the flag or the wind? Then Hei-neng answers not the wind or the flag, it is the mind. She delves into this case and the background of Hui-neng’s life and recorded sayings. The talk includes the teaching of 9^th century nun Miaoxin, and also Aitkin Roshi’s comments on the value of ‘polishing compassion’.

This talk by Jane Andino roshi, discusses aspects of Case 29 of the Wu-men Kuan, titled ‘Hui-neng: Not the wind, not the flag’ at the Zazenkai at Annandale in July 2025.